", Mosin Videos, and "How to's" (Sub-Forum). The 1895 Nagant revolver is well known in the US as cheap surplus gun (available for a time for under $100) with questionable ammunition availability. 3 Notice location of serial number on the frame and the square rebuild mark. One view from the side, the described. The .380 vs. 38 Special Whats the Difference & Which is Better. One more option is available: a conversion cylinder for the more common 32ACP. You can make your first post here! Thanks for any knowledge on the markings.. by Longcolt44 Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:33 pm, Post Ivan had to be well into his eighties at the time and spoke with a heavy Romanian accent. Honestly, I have never seen a handgun with so many markings, and, aside from the date on the side plate, can't even guess . The years between the Russian Civil War and World War II saw the founding of the Soviet Union and the eventual power transition to Josef Stalin after Lenin died in 1924. If you want to suppress it, youll have to do some work. The front sight base is milled into the barrel. load. The Russians chose a .30 caliber 97 grain bullet doing about 1000 feet per second, which is cool when its called 32 H&R Magnum and comes in a gun with a good trigger pull, but when its made by Communistsisnt as cool. Mosin Marks Some marks are "known" marks, and some are not known at all. Its a cool little gun that is surprisingly pleasant to shoot. The empty space in the brass neck of the cartridge protrudes into the forcing cone, completing the gas seal. From what I've been able to dig up, the skinny-hammer in star arsenal stamp is from the relocated Tula factory. What we have at present is a very competent revolver for hunting small game. This marking was used only for 3 years - 1921-1, c1932 mfr. If it isn't the large circular one, do you know what that stamp is and what it means? I should warn you that these pages can take some time to Anyway, he also designed the M1895 Nagant revolver, and it is pretty unique, and, in my opinion, a bit ahead of its time so long . Thank you! 1928 or Ispr 1928 means corrected in 1928. translates as ispravlennie which translates as corrected, amended, or revised. This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 12:18. . They still used crimped brass and undersized bullets, but they are the best commercial cartridges Ive run across. by etprescottazusa91 Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm, Return to Military and Modern Hand Guns Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. I don't think there are a whole lot of 1915 Tula Nagants out there. replacing parts, there is no need to disassemble the weapon to this The distinctive shape and name helped it achieve cult status in Russia and in the early 1930s the presentation of a Nagant M1895 revolver with an embossed Red Star was one of the greatest honors that could be bestowed on a Party Member. by jaytex1969 Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:31 pm, Post IYO, in the condition this holster appears to be in, what do you think fair market value with the cleaning rod is? Seven available shots are followed by a slow reload. The main feature of the Nagant is the gas seal effected by the forward movement of the entire cylinder on cocking. weapon for the rear site, while at the bottom right you can see a close Prices have increased since I owned one, with shooter-grade samples running around $250. While even the single action trigger is heavier than usual for the US revolvers, its crisp and provides a margin of safety for shooting with gloved hands. M-1895 Nagant Pistol. Price of $200 and $249 with tax & shipping. The Nagant M1895, or plain old Nagant Revolver, has long served the Russian military and is among the most unique handguns from behind the former Iron Curtain. It's chambered in 7.62x38R. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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It has a barrel length of 4 inches, and has four-groove rifling with a right hand twist. On the other hand,. The common Russian name for the revolver, (nagan) became synonymous with the concept of the revolver in general and was applied to such weapons regardless of actual make or model. An estimated 15 million people died before Vladimir Lenin seized firm control in 1923. The cocking mechanism, as the hammer comes back, moves the cylinder forward to create, along with the cartridge, a seal that prevents most of the gas and energy from escaping out the sides. Seven Nagant revolvers were used by communist revolutionaries to execute the Russian imperial family and their servants in July 1918. As one former Imperial Russian officer stated, "if anything went wrong with the M1895, you could fix it with a hammer"[citation needed], It was widely employed by the Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka, as well as its Soviet successor agencies, the OGPU and NKVD. My Beretta 81 is a fun gun that lives in a backpack. Posts: 313. Some marks Also the markings on the inside flap of the holster. Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska, Standard inspector and rebuild stamps, nice looking gun. The 1915 date makes sense but not sure what this 1928 mark is? And yet the 1895 Nagant remains popular for reasons other than its historic cachet. Russian and Soviet troops used the pistol during both world wars. . Well all probably be using magnetic pulse rifles and some shepherd in the Kyber Pass will still be packing his great-great-great-grandfathers Nagant revolver. The brass is tapered up around the cone of the bullet and extends just past the nose. But the results, if done right, are spectacular. Despite the advent of the more modern Soviet TT pistol, the M1895 remained in production and use throughout World War II. Its got all matching . Izhevsk in 1944, while the one on the bottom right was made in Tula in 1941. This Mossberg 26B bolt-action rifle in .22 caliber belonged to my dad, Robert Elmo Babington. The Russians produced it in two models: a DA/SA model for officers and NCOs and a single action only version for low-ranking enlisted personnel. They are on the real pistols though. This site is protected under US and International copyright laws. Shockingly, they werent exactly good at record keeping. The gun has no makers markings but has Belgian proofs on the cylinder. If Many smaller proof marks can also be seen between the Also most of them been lost forever during WWII with verylow survivor ratio. That was an innovative feature in 1870, but by the early 1900s was hopelessly obsolete. The Also, It is one of the most mass-produced military bolt-action rifles in history. The important one to know is a square with a diagonal line through it - denotes an Arsenal rework, which most of the import marked guns were. The bullet is deeply seated, entirely within the cartridge case, and the case is slightly reduced in diameter at its mouth. And dont even get us started on the Nagants cartridge, 7.62x38R. Not an answer to your question but I once owned a Smith & Wesson M&P in .38/200 that was literally covered in stampings. That cartridges underwhelming performance prompted the return to the .45 ACP with the M1911 and the Smith & Wesson Model 1917 revolver. purposes. The common Russian name for the revolver, ( nagan) became synonymous with the concept of the revolver in general and was applied to such weapons regardless of actual make or model. Terov revolver TOZ-36 // Steleck revue, 4, 1970, Terov revolver TOZ-49 // Steleck revue, 10, 1978, . . It did, however, serve Russia and the Soviet Union for 55 years and in four major wars, including the Russian Civil War immediately following World War I and the revolutions of 1917. Main Page - Russian Mosin Nagant Information Misc. Shooting any ammunition other than the 7.62x38mmR cartridge with the original cylinder can cause bodily injury from bullet shrapnel or escaping gas, and the excessive pressures produced by some .32 ammunition could also cause catastrophic failure of the cylinder or frame. But in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, chamberings such as 6.5mm and 7.65 mm (.32 ACP) were very common in Europe. Therefore, all the energy and gas are focused forward through the barrel and out the muzzle. This feature makes the Nagant the only revolver of which Im aware that can be effectively suppressed, if youre so inclined. Interesting refurb anyways. When the Russians adopted the Nagant revolver, the other major powers service revolvers were chambered in 45 Colt (USA) and 455 Webley (Great Britain). In 2015, a French tactical team killed an Islamic terrorist and found a fired 1895 Nagant on his person. As early as 1933 the M1895 had started to be replaced by the Tokarev semi-automatic pistol but was never fully replaced until the Makarov pistol in 1952. My Beretta 81, chambered in 7.65, is an Italian police trade in and it was made in the 1980s. At the beginning of the article, we said that over 2,000,000 Nagant revolvers had been made. 8440 Ulmerton Rd Suite 500, Largo, Florida 33771. I'm hoping someone here will be able to point me in the right direction to learn and identify the markings on this very solid 1944 model. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. authenticity or misuse of the site content or material found on the By comparison, a brand-new S&W 686 has a 14-16 pound double action pull, and a 3-4 pound single action pull. . We offer a large selection of military surplus firearms, parts and accessories from around the world. front sight post, leaving the rear sight and target slightly blurry. remained in use with the Russian Railways, postal service,[9] and some remote police forces for many years. It was soon after manufactured under license in Russia and is perhaps . by mosin94 Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:10 pm, Post The Russian Nagant M1895 revolver is usually an afterthought, at best, when the topic of military surplus weapons comes up. A lot of shooters go through a military surplus or Curio and Relic phase of their gun ownership. up of the blade sight and the muzzle of the weapon. As a fun aside, the SA only Nagants are also specifically mentioned in the Single Action Shooting Societys rule book as legal for Cowboy Action Shooting. The revolver has about 75% of its original finish remaining. The MO marking is subject to much speculation, but in the end nobody has documented proof of what it means. More recently, Prvi Partisan (PPU) (sometimes branded Hot Shot) became available at about $22 per 50. They were corrosive and only moderately consistent. In British service the Webley Revolver uses a top-break cylinder and star extractor to simultaneously eject all spent cartridges and in American service the Smith & Wesson Model 10 uses a swing-out cylinder and star extractor to simultaneously eject all spent cartridges; therefore replacing older single-action revolvers with a side-loading gate and ejector rod to remove spent cartridges individually in succession. The disadvantage of this design is that Nagant revolvers were laborious and time-consuming to reload, with the need to manually eject each of the used cartridges, and reload one cartridge at a time through a loading gate. Expensive revolvers such as Korth and Manurhin are hand-fitted, keeping the gap to a minimum. The one below shows the right side of the weapon, while There was also a BRAMIT device for mounting on the M91 Mosin-Nagant rifle that used special subsonic ammunition. This allows the reloaders to work up a load that fits their needs and is specific for the Nagant. Location: Sunshine State. While this eliminates the bulged/split/stuck cases experienced when using .32 S&W and .32 H&R, the gas seal that made the Nagant famous will still not fully function as the .32-20 is not long enough to protrude past the cylinder like the original Nagant ammunition. Today in the West, the Nagant revolver is a collectors curiosity item. The design of the revolver is simple and robust. Stalin famously brutalized his people, including his crippling purges of the Red Army officer corps in the 1930s. Revolvers typically have a small gap (sometimes called the flash gap) between the cylinder and the barrel to allow the cylinder to revolve. Designed by Belgian gunsmiths Leon and Emil Nagant, who were also mostly responsible for the Mosin Nagant rifle, the M1895 revolver is better than generally thought. The Suppressed Revolver The Nagant M1895 revolver can be suppressed because the cylinder gap is elimated when fired in double action. This seven-shot, 7.62x38mm revolver originally designed in Belgium by Emil Nagant, was adopted by Russia in 1895. An obsolete design with no full-power ammunition available. For a long time, the only available non-corrosive load was Fiocchi at about $30 per 50 rounds. Fiocchi and Prvi PPU make pretty good ammo for the Nagant. Featured Gun Classifieds Nagant Revolvers, Tula Russian nagant 1895 7.62x 28. If you run across a Nagant M1895 and decide to buy it, here are a few tips: So, dont let the sometimes-bad rap of the Nagant revolver deter you. This firearm was shipped in 1899 and was the 5th shipment. 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