With Darrells hydro-forming service you dont have to buy any special dies or other equipment. Other good options are: Kelbly, CG Jackson (good 2-Stage) Anschutz (best 2-Stage for Bat and Kelbly actions), BixN Andy, and David Tubb. To quote Danny Biggs (a two times FTR National Champion) The 185 BTLR is the best bullet for .308 Win ever made. I chose this action based on BAT Machines impeccable reputation. My bullets were so consistent that I did not sort by bearing surface. Best powders for the .284 Win are H4350 and H4831SC. (Eric Bostrom developed an almost identical unit at the same time. Henry: I cringe when I see people wearing out their barrels with bronze brushes between relays. The parent case for this wildcat is the 284 Winchester. So I only have to apologize about some red flakes in our bathroom., We like this handsome quilted Maple-stocked Mauser belonging to Forum member Steel Mover. I push out to 600 yards and do a ladder test in round-robin format. He tells us: In my humble opinion, the .284 Shehane is the best balanced long-range round there is bar none. Ians father, Ken Klemm, finished third among High Masters, and also nailed the highest score among ALL shooters in the 1000-Yard F-TR team match. After I get the feedback I need from my sighters its time to go for record. Team LBB: Jay Christopherson, Erik Cortina, Tom Hendricks, Pat Scully, Coach Bob Sebold. After getting in late one Saturday night, I forgot to clean my rifle. It should run on (6.5)-284 brass as that's the parent case Originally there was 284 Winchester whixh was necked down to 6.5 and became the wildcat benchrest favourite Now the 7mm bullets have been developed to such a degree they outshine the 6.5 fare so the trend has swung back to 284 or 284 Shehane or KLM Still a 6.5/284 parent case to start . Forum Member JimmyMac posted: Picked up my new 6 PPC today. The laminated stock was modified by Tommy Shurley from a standard 3-wide fore-end to a 5-wide True-Trac with an adjustable 3-wide rear plate. Precision Rifle & Tools F-Class stock fit this bill to perfection. Darrell can neck-turn any size case to your specified neck-wall thickness. Thats a $.25 per round difference, equivalent to a 60% savings for the .284. Among BAT Machine Co.actions, I like BAT models M, MB, and 3LL best. The "old" 284 Winchester on the right is loaded to COAL of 2.8 inches. I bought a BAT three lug from Tom Mousel in Montana. Best bullets for the 6mm Dasher are: Vapor Trail 103gr, Berger 105 Hybrid, 108 BT, and 105 VLD (hunting). _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); The big bore shooters believe a heavier bullet flies better in unpredictable wind conditions. Two 4 x 8 sheets of plywood hold four IBS targets. You may see 40 units (on the K&M dial) dropping to 20, then slowly increasing pressure. If you were loading in a short action, maybe the 162 grain bullets would be the ones to go for. Joel currently works as the Supplier Quality Process Engineer for MMI-TruTec, a company that offers barrel surface coatings that can further extend your barrel life. I use Hodgdon H4831sc powder, CCI BR2 primers, and pointed 180gr Bergers., Share the post "Accurate Cartridges The .284 Shehane, an Improved .284 Win", Tags: .284 Shehane, .284 Winchester, Erik Cortina, F-Class, F-Open, Improved, Ryan Pierce. This sports a suppressed, 26 MTU 1:7.5-twist barrel. This load gave us 2910 fps velocity with an Extreme Spread (ES) of 7 fps and a Standard Deviation (SD) of 3 fps over ten (10) shots. With a standard .284 Winchester, or better yet, a .284 Improved, you can drive the high-BC Berger 180gr and 184gr bullets to competitive velocities. For more information, visit DJsBrass.com, or call Darrell at (205) 461-4680. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I bolted the barreled action in, and squeezed the end of the forearm and barrel together, the stock flexed a little bit, but not as much as other designs that I have tested. 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; Typical load for a Shehane is around 57.0 grains of Hodgdon H4831 SC. By blowing the sidewalls out 0.010, the .284 Shehane picks up about 3.3 grains of extra case capacity. I have shot both, and prefer cut-rifled barrels. I use a bore mop to clean inside the chamber, then some Break Free LP on the bolt followed by bolt grease on the lugs and cocking part. Primer pockets start to get a little looser and the brass seems to need more sizing than the newer brass with less firings. However, to truly compare the cost of shooting the two calibers you must figure in barrel life. We comparison-tested a 6.5-284 rifle launching 142 SMKs at 2975 fps, a 300 WSM rifle firing 210 Bergers at 2850 fps, and my .284 Winchester shooting 180 Bergers at 2900 fps. This was the first five rounds through it after I cleaned it after the last match. Second I visited his shop during the SWN in February and liked what I observed and how he approached things. Scope: Duanes rifle was fitted with a Nightforce 15-55x52mm Competition scope with DDR-2 reticle. [This] caliber has awesome accuracy. Choices for Mid-Range in Tougher Conditions: Uniform velocity gives me more consistent vertical point of impact. After hydro-forming your brass, Darrell can also neck-up or neck-down the cases to meet your needs. At this point the barrel had 439 rounds through it. Darrell normally offers a 10-day turn-around. This is one sport where you can be a champion in later life., Click on Rifle Photos to View Full-screen Versions. How does this improve rifle performance and how do you set the tune? As I said in the beginning, many cartridge types are capable of winning but are not listed due to their low popularity, case design, or lack of quality components. and F-class cross the coarse shooting. Forum Member Gunnermhr states: This is my new 12-lb Dasher for the 1000 Yard Benchrest silhouette matches. [This] caliber has awesome accuracy. I quit cleaning every relay after reading Mr. Tierneys article, but I would still clean on Saturday night after I got home. I thought we had a load dialed-in, so I was fairly confident going to the North Carolina Long-Range State Championships. But in reality, on average, the .223 Rem, regardless of what powder/bullet combo is used, cannot compete with the .308 Win. Share the post "Hail the Champions: 2018 F-Class Nationals at Raton, NM", By Emil Kovan The 284 Shehane has a proven record of accomplishments and that is why I have chosen it. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .284 Winchester .284 Winchester - Manufacturer Loading Data Pistol Rifle Cowboy Bullet Type Primer Case Trim Length C.O.L . The variable power and unobstructed DD-1 reticle of the NF were deciding factors. It offers great ballistics with very low recoil and big accuracy window. Success: 2910 FPS with Ten-Shot ES of 7 and SD of 3 Shooters may experiment with either shooting style to find what suits them best. At the 2008 Nationals in Lodi, Wisconsin, Charles shot a 1337-65X with Berger 180gr bullets. Its low recoil along with its super grouping ability and good ballistics make it my number one choice for Mid-Range. It is a no-brainer for long range F-Class or Prone or 1000-yard Benchrest., Scotlands Grant Taylor. And F-Class guys if youre shooting a .284 Win-based case in F-Open you should definitely read Henrys precision reloading advice. About his two guns he posted: All I need is a can of bear spray. Q: You are in your 70s now and have only been shooting competitively for a few years. The rifle was smithed by Dave Bruno., Share the post "Sunday Gunday: Pride & Joy Guns of Summer from Our Forum". I approached Will at the Berger SW Nationals about a rifle I wanted to build. With the price of premium brass topping $1.00 per case for popular match cartridges, it makes sense to consider annealing your brass to extend its useful life. NOTE: If youre skeptical of those single-digit chron readings, click on the Video Playback screen below to view Ballard test-firing a load that delivers an ES of 5 and SD of 2 for five shots. The stock was finished in gloss black per the customers request. We offer new reloding data for: .284 Winchester, with bullets: 140 grs / 9,1 gram Nosler E-Tip 150 grs / 9,7 gram Hornady ELD-X The .284 is my hands-down choice for shooting F-Class. with 130-, 140-, 150-, and 160-grain bullets are 3,130, 3,079, 2,968, and 2,864 fps respectively. MV is 2680 FPS. For these photos, he removed safety glasses. Note the block fitted to the tubular fore-end so the rifle rides smooth and steady on the Rodzilla T-Rex joystick front rest. IMPORTANT: Contact Darrell for shipping instructions BEFORE sending any brass for processing. I offer that die-making service in addition to barrel chambering. recoil reduction system (hydraulic-damped buttpad), Bix N Andy trigger, and Nightforce Competition scope. Most importantly, the stock features an extra-long, super-stiff, low profile fore-end. This was sent that to Bryan Blake at Blake Machine. This insures the gun returns to the same spot after recoil. Its throated for the 180gr Bergers. He is a great shooter and a great gun-builder as well. Along with these popular cartridge types, DJs Brass can hydro-form 6 PPC, 30 PPC, 6 BRA, 30 BR, .260 AI, .284 Shehane and other wildcats. The rifle features a BAT B Action. The stainless Blake barrel is chambered for the .284 Shehane wildcat, and sports an F-Class Products tuner on the end. I run a 184gr Berger at about 2850 FPS and get great brass life in my other rifles. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc, with long barrels. After researching the winning competitors, rifles, and rounds I ordered a Panda action with Krieger barrel in 6mm Dasher from Kelbys. Does this really help reduce extreme spread? I also liked the fact that the MB (medium long front) action offered an extended front end. The .284 Shehane has won in Benchrest as well as F-Class competition. This barrel has 2200 rounds through it. The Lapua brass is worth the difference. })(); To comment on a post, click Post Title or "Comment" Link. The Dasher had actually been giving tighter groups under perfect conditions, but seeing the impact is important. You use less powder than the 7 mags, and have great accuracy and ballistics even while fire-forming. The Oehler consistently gave me readings of 2892 fps to 2902 fps with an SD of 4 fps using once-fired brass. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc, with long barrels. Vihtavuori has added new loads to the available reloading data, and this time we're also offering data for the .284 Winchester! Not shooting free recoil, I needed a stock that would fit me like a prone stock but track like a benchrest stock. The 6.5X47 Lapua necked down to 6mm is also a great option for mid range matches. I started calling anyone I could thing of to see if they had any idea what could be causing this problem. Tips for F-Class Competitors I have a concrete bench using a slab from a yard furniture place on concrete blocks. Bryan did all the stock work and fitted the action, rails, and RAD recoil pad. Owner Jason Cohen explained why he chose the .284 Shehane chambering: The .284 Shehane has a proven record of accomplishments and that is why I have chosen it. Cases are full-length resized, but I bump the shoulders only .0005 (one-half thousandth). I would not go any hotter in the interest of case life. I selected a Broughton 5C because, as my gunsmith says, They just shoot. The 7 SAUM has a punch to it and I found myself having trouble finishing three relays without form problems in the last relay. The 22 BR and 22 Dasher are capable of outstanding accuracy with a large variety of bullets and powders. Us old guys need all the help we can get. Lets just say it didnt go as planned. Powder Load Development - 284 Win vs Vihtavuori N165 - YouTube 0:00 / 15:59 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Winchester I use Redding bushing dies, apply Imperial sizing wax, resize, wipe off wax, clean and uniform the primers pockets using the RCBS Trim Mate Case prep center, then apply Imperial dry neck lube with a bore mop. This optic is ultra clear, reasonably lightweight (28 oz. Ya, I figured why not I had some old barrels laying around so I just chopped 2 off the back and 1 off the front and chambered it up as a Shehane. It still supported on a 3 forearm and is full length. Go to page. Big Mistake! If you want more than a standard 284 Win in a short-fat, move up to a 7mm WSM. This gave me the right amount of wind to work with. Using 24-inch pressure barrels, maximum velocities for the .284 Win. The average cost of a barrel, chambered and fitted, is $500.00. The barrel with which I shot my record was removed after that match so I dont put too many rounds on it before the Nationals. Record Fire This allows the stock to accommodate either a hard hold style or a more free-recoil style of shooting whatever the rifles owner prefers. Kovan Match Rifles LLC, www.matchrifles.com. I figured if I get it up to 2935-2950 fps that will be a point or two saved in a several day match. 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The bolt carrier will most likely be slamming into the back of your action as well, which is obviously bad. Explore. I start 0.6 grains lower than my last charge that worked. Some of my cases have been fired at least 10 times with primer pockets reasonably firm. In African Obeche wood (any color choice), the price is $795.00. Henrys Championship-winning rig is shown below. In F-TR competition, the choice is clear a .308 Win throated for Berger 185gr BTLRs and 200gr Hybrids will win in mid-range AND long-range comps. 284 Win on Quickload The .284 Light Gun needed a muzzle brake and tuner. I usually anneal the brass each winter. Annealing plus ultrasonic cleaning starts at $35 per 100 cases ($45 for magnum cases). Gun Handling and Recoil ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. DJs Brass Service now offers custom case hydro-forming to your exact specs. After that I play a little with seating depth and look for a change. Bryan did all the stock work and fitted the action, rails, and RAD recoil pad. Duane decided to use a BAT M action for this rifle, and I think that he could not have made a better choice. After speaking with Mr. Tierney at the 2006 US F-Class Nationals, I decided the .284 Win would be the chambering for the new gun, despite several shooters telling me I would not be able to obtain the desired velocities. Heres my advice: Jason explains why he selected the .284 Shehane chambering: The .284 Shehane is amazing, very forgiving and not temperamental. Next I sort the cases into one-grain lots, for example 194.0 to 194.9 grains, then 195.0 to 195.9 grains, and so on. You use less powder than the 7 mags, and have great accuracy and ballistics even while fire-forming. (function() { The new Master Class Low Profile stock shares the same grip as the old model. Without AccurateShooter.com, I would probably still be shooting double-digit (10+) groups at 1000 yards, and I sure wouldnt have my name on a National Championship trophy. To travel down to New Mexico and win at Raton was very satisfying as I had to come from behind. Ian told us: This Championship was especially difficult as a particularly strong challenger [and new 1000-yard record-holder] Mike Plunkett had earned an early lead and I would have to make up 6 points in the final day to win. If there is a down-side to the .284 it would be recoil. At the end he holds the Oehler Chrono up to the camera so you can view the readout yourself. Best powders are: Varget, H4895, and Reloder 15. In this story, Henry explains his set-up plus his processes for loading super-accurate ammo. With a good set-up, older guys can compete with anyone out there. This made the extraction of fired cases very difficult. I use Hodgdon H4831sc powder, CCI BR2 primers, and pointed 180gr Bergers.. You are using an out of date browser. This barrel has 2200 rounds through it. I sort my bullets to 0.005 overall length, rejecting about five percent. On other guns, a 32 tube could cause the rifle to be front-heavy and out-of-balance. After the NC State Champs, the gun went into hibernation for the winter. Typical load for a Shehane is around 57.0 grains of Hodgdon H4831 SC.". (Thats with a reasonably fast barrel. What is .284 KMR IMP and why choose it over the straight .284 Winchester? The US F-Open team has been experimenting with the 7mm RSAUM. Share the post "Accurate Cartridges The .284 Shehane, an Improved .284 Win". Henry also runs a combo tuner/muzzle-brake. In a match with only two sighters, Ill make a wind call and try to hit the center with my first shot. This 22 BR Savage, with upgrades from Sharpshooter Supply, is the pride and joy of Forum member Maynard. With the .284 Shehane, you have a .308 bolt face, medium action, and Lapua brass. Henry: At the Nationals, I used my 17-lb Light Gun for both Light and Heavy Class. Enjoy this trip back in time to when the .284 Win was the new kid on the block. On the following Monday, we went back to the test bench and chrono. Locally, I use a Champions Choice soft bag. We thank Joel for this smart suggestion. I would also encourage other older shooters not to quit. The stocks track perfectly. Hydro-forming by Darrell costs $0.60 per case with 100-ct minimum. Had 1000 pieces to fireform and didnt want to do all that on a brand new barrel. The stock is a Deep Creek Tracker with 4 forearm and rudder system (the toe of the stock adjusts for angle, allowing better tracking). However, to REALLY make a difference, you would need to get a cartridge capable of launching those 180's at a minimum of 3050+! My face rests on the stock and my shoulder is placed firmly into the buttplate. Primer pockets start to get a little looser and the brass seems to need more sizing than the newer brass with less firings.. The action is topped with a stainless BAT tapered (+20 MOA) Picatinny scope rail. This We the People rifle will be one of my primary rifles for F-Open competition. What methods are you using to ensure consistent bullet release? He is always trying new ideas. This has a McMillan Kestros ZR stock fitted with a RAD (spring-loaded buttpad) system with custom spring. I stumbled on a recoil pad that is uniquely effective, the Falcon Strike. Bill Shehane developed a wildcat (.284 Shehane) different shoulder angle (a little more case capacity). This state-of-the-art .284 Shehane F-Open rifle belongs to Forum member Willow. Q: What you do enjoy most about long-range benchrest shooting? Then use the tuner and tune the barrel to the load. I have a 29 barrel also though since its a setback. If you are unsure whether this rod guide is for your rifle, please give us a call or shoot us an email. In fact, this impressive sub-quarter MOA group was shot while fire-forming with a very well-worn barrel! Processing Fired Cases: My fired cases are tumbled in walnut shell media, then cleaned off. Rifle Report by Jason Cohen If it makes sense, try it. I work up from that reduced charge weight in increments of 0.3 grains. Heres another handsome .284 Shehane F-Open rifle. At the 2009 F-Class Nationals, held at Camp Butner, NC, Ballard shot a 1328-62X to win his second straight National title. Here are testimonials from recent customers. I use a K&M Arbor Press with seating force gauge when seating the bullets with a Wilson inline die. This scope is a Vortex 15-60x52mm Golden Eagle riding in Burris Signature Zee rings. In this 15-55X NF model, I like the DDR-2 reticle best, because fine cross hairs (FCH) are hard to see in heavy mirage. The extra boiler room is enough to drive the 180s at 2900-2950 fps with H4831sc. I screw on the new barrel, fire 25 rounds of whatever I have left over and then clean it. Both are remarkably modern, flat-shooting 7mms. The rifle is fitted with a red dot sight, ammo caddies, Ranger Point M-LOK handguard, and a modernized modular buttstock. The 6.5-284 wins its share of matches, and is a true tack-driver when tuned right. [Editors Note: Jerry Tierney is no longer with us. Everything turned out flawless. Free Shipping On Orders Over $99! Well done father and son! I will occasionally mess with the tuner and tighten things up if possible. Amazing..!! Up until 2020, this required necking up 6.5-284 to 7mm, then fireforming to a 284 Shehane. Hydro-forming by Darrell costs $0.60 (sixty cents) per case with a minimum order of $60. With availability of useful bullets ranging from 85 grains to 160 grains, the 6.5-284 has a lot to offer varminters, big-game hunters and long-range target shooters. The action is from the first rifle I purchased with my own money 21 years ago (700VSS). The rifle now sports a 24 Brux barrel chambered in 6mm Creedmoor, with aftermarket PT&G Bolt and DBM metal. It had 2000 as a straight .284 Win and then I set it back to .284 Shehane to form brass with. Note how the vertical centerline of the stock is very close to the barrel. Ryan is using 54.0 grains simply as a fire-forming load. Please call Darrell at 205-461-4680 for special services pricing. This has proven to be a valuable tool in my load development. Do you tune the barrel to the load? Henrys Championship-winning rig is shown below. Go. I start 0.6 grains lower than my last charge that worked. Not enough gain to be worth the trouble, IMO. Dan says: The Anschutz provides good practice in trigger-pulling. Thats where the .284 Shehane comes into play. Despite the issues I explained in the load development section with low initial velocities on new barrels, I would say the .284 is fairly easy to tune. In Long-Range F-Open Class (out to 1000 yards), the big, high-BC bullets rule. Note: With this fouler fire-forming routine, you should ALWAYS do the fire-forming with the SAME POWDER you load for your match ammo. Share the post "Hydro-Forming, Annealing, Neck-Turning by DJs Brass". This includes Tikka T3X and many Tikka and Sako rifles. Above is a nice field rifle built up by a father for his daughter. Plus, our years of work experience help us to think, analyze, and thereby make progress. The action area of this stock has been beefed up to house the large BAT MB action. Ultrasonic Cleaning, Check Necks, and Annealing ($35.00/100 normal or $45.00/100 magnum) For most jobs, Darrell tells us, he gets the processed brass to the Post Office within three business days. Duane decided to have the barrel chambered for my 284 KMR IMP (Improved) wildcat. Unless you really get some exotic woods they all seem to blend together. It takes a great rifle to approach that goal, but it is also up to the shooter to learn and experiment as much as possible in order to achieve success. I tried some, accepting some and rejecting some. OK, if we now net the barrel cost savings (-$.25) for the .284 with the higher cost of 7mm reloading components (+$.07), I figure the .284 Win costs $.18 per round LESS to shoot than the 6.5-284. Create False Shoulder for Fire-Forming (Call for Price). If you need formed brass for a new build (gun not yet fired), let me know and I will size the brass to fit within .001 of a PT&G GO gauge.. My straight .284 almost required me to stand up to eject brass. Sighter Strategies Forum member John V. from Scotland showcased a successful hunt with his .243 Winchester rifle. I shot my best-ever 1K Heavy Gun group (3.348) at days end after 60 to 80 rounds. .284 Shehane Load Development Im getting 2930-2950 fps with spreads in the 3-5 fps range. Lesson learned: use an expander when necking-up the brass! who used the .284 Shehane to finish third at the 2009 F-Class Worlds in England says the .284 Shehane is very accurate with superb vertical spreads at 1000 yards. I explained to a friend that not lubing the neck is like overhauling an engine without lubing the cylinders. Henry: I try to keep my charge weights consistent to one kernel of powder. Our buddy Erik Cortina interviewed Norm in this video, starting at 00:15: Interview with F-Open Champ Norm Harrold at 00:15: In Team competition, Team X-Men won the 1000-Yard F-TR Team Title, with a 1568-61X score.