Since 2001, BNSF has eliminated districts running to Eugene, Ore., Helena, Mont., Quanah, Texas, Mobile, Ala., and International Falls, Minn. The crew change point on the South Transcon is Wellington Kan, Amarillo Texas Belen New Mexico Needles California Barstow, California (on some trains) Fresno, California Stockton California--also some trains change crews at Bakersfield, California Maybe others can fill in Dale Smith [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 09/07/16 19:16 A decline in coal traffic, fewer employees when rail traffic began to rise, and the desire to operate the railroad with fewer employees are all contributing factors, he says. The project required the company to move about 3.6 million tons of rock, lay 5 miles of new track, and build nine new bridges with a combined length of about 3,000 feet. "With over 17 million intermodal loads transported by rail annually, BNSF's Southern Transcon is one of several key routes for the movement of goods from Southern California to Chicago," said Joni Casey, president and CEO, Intermodal Association of North America. BNSF has added a crew change at Kremmling, Colo., on the former Rio Grande, and abolished the change at Las Vegas, N.M. Railroads included in this map: > * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? Paul MN. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. I thought they also did a UPcrew district map too, but I may be thinking about a map on the UP company website. The railroad is run as an East-West route. Correct, the hours of service were changed as follows: 16 hours to 14 hours on December 26, 1970, 14 hours to 12 hours on December 26, 1972. This month BNSF placed in service 5 miles of fourth main track on the Hereford Subdivision through Amarillo, Texas. * Denver north: Cheyenne, WY, then . LIONS with CAMERAS. No, Rawlins is still a crew change point for all trains 50 mph and less. Remember, in the time when the basic crew agreements and the 100 mile day were originated,when after the implementation of the Hours of Service laws - those laws had a maximum on duty time of 16 hours - 16 hours for a 100 mile run equals 6.25 MPH. (200+ miles?). About 50/50 on one crewactually making it. Microsoft Train Simulator BNSF Phoenix Sub Crew Change Points? Get in touch with us using the Media Contacts list on the left. Under the new policy, which is slated to. 16. Use this page to find the right person at BNSF to answer your supplier questions. Get great snapshots of railroading history in Art Petersons newest book. LION *knows* that Mandan is a crew change point, but Dickinson is so no longer, and the next crew change point is Glendive, MT. BNSF 1859-345 hump engines. Thanks in advance for your help. Jeff, another hotel where you can rub shoulders with men in road service is the Clarion Hotel in Albany, N.Y. "I would love to get whoever made this policy happen or said okay to it to come and join us for a week on how it is day to day," she urged. showing freights running at 50+ MPH between Miles City and Harlowton, which would put the start to stop time at a bit over 4 hours. The hotel provides transportation for thecrews and for passengers who come in or go out of the station in Renssalaer, and it is possible to ride in a van with the railroad employees. Then in 1972 (after the HOS was changed to 14 hours, Dec. 26, 1970) the company decided to open up an inter-divisional run fromLA to San Luis Obispo), and have us do it in 14 hours, which really worked good. Jeff, can you tell us the reason for having the two pools (short and long)? Harvey and Enderlin, ND; Glenwood, Thief River Falls, and Minneapolis/St. The Western Pacific also had some ~200 mile crew districts. Terms Of Use | Notice at Collection | Privacy | 2022 BNSF Railway Company. With only one curve sharper than 3 degrees between the two points, the track alignment was well suited for 50 to 60 MPH freight running - though track maintenance may have been another story. Bassano was located at almost the exact halfway point on the Sub. At BNSF, we are committed to providing you the information you need to make informed transportation decisions. The away terminal is the opposite end of their run, and the crews get their 8-hours rest in a motel provided by the company that is to say, whats left of the 8 hours after travel time to and from the motel, a meal, a shower and, of course, the crew-caller can call 6.5 hours after tie-up time. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. I've searched the Web and have came up with a few locations for the BNSF. Other changes on the PCE were Alberton, MT to St. Maries, ID and St. Maries, ID to Othello, WA. But apart from the policy, she said she loves her job. Raton, NM??? Someone emailed this info to me. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone. When crews are tight on either pool at either end, they use crews out of either pool. I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. http://www.oaktreeinn.com/Hotels is a current list of hotels. Alaska Railfanning / My ARR Photos on Flickr. Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. Please have a look here to see what other groups are saying about BNSF Railway. Maybe an old BN expert can help us here, but didn't BN change some crew districts in Montana to run up to 450 miles? Lowest Point : 456 ft @ Topock, AZ. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone. "I can't give you a name of anyone that likes the policy whatsoever," Knutson said. Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). where are they south of La Crosse? While they have been built to provide lodging for AFHT crews, they are open to the public as well. Hugh Cook is Wyoming Public Radio's Northeast Reporter, based in Gillette. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. "The project in Amarillo as well as the other projects between Southern California and Chicago will help all traffic types along the route flow more freely and help prevent congestion.". The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. from Calgary to Medicine Hat, AB, created in 1910. Some crew change points were simply the points at which one railroad had a junction with another. It's grown enough that engineer's need about half of that, even less for conductors. Correct, the hours of service were changed as follows: 16 hours to 14 hours on December 26, 1970, 14 hours to 12 hours on December 26, 1972. It is interesting when you look at old ETT's. Amarillo is a crew change point, so there is a lot of activity along the city's rail lines. Othello, WA to Tacoma, WA, running thru Cle Elum was also instituted. I haven't heard of this in a long time, so maybe this was a failed idea. Usually though, a long pool crew on trains that normally go to the short pool will still change out at Boone and theLP crew will continue on to the other end in a van. So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll. Barstow CA. All in all, it is an interesting aspect to the industry. No? If I had not already packed my 1893 Guide in preparation for moving, I could give you the name of each road. At the time we were having trouble going from Boone to Clinton in 12 hours. Get the answers to the questions most commonly asked about BNSF. I guess he's got a point because all the trains stopat such places. They can only work 12 hours by federal law. I'm sure that longer crew districts in other places are coming Our community is FREE to join. November 3, 2022 INDEPENDENCE, Ohio, (Nov. 3, 2022) The BLET and SMART-TD will host a joint town hall meeting next week to discuss the tentative national rail agreement. The heart of the yard is visible from a hill about midway . Looking for a media contact within BNSF? Official site: BNSF.COM / KC / Ft. Madison / Chicago. But completing the historic route wasn't the last piece of the puzzle. Edgemont, South Dakota, is a crew change point for the busy BNSF Gillette WY - Alliance NE division. > > BNSF crew changes:> * Denver east: used to be in Akron, CO, but I think they moved it all> the way out to McCook, NE. Some were/are longer, some were/are shorter. BNSF Crew Change Points (Transcon and Hi Line). Same with RR'ers in TEY service. Or, did they get rid of it because there was too much congestion / delays east of Clinton? In Iowa, they started running Atkins, IA on the Council Bluffs main and Nahant (Davenport) on the KC line. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Thanks to all the responses so far--both here in the newsgroup and viaemail. Years ago while overnighting in the Super 8 in Ft Madison, Iowa I had the pleasure to talk to a BNSF (ex Santa Fe) crewman. The railroad said they made no changes to how much time off an employee receives. "We have had a lot of people resign, quit working, and not just Gillette, across the system, because they went and found other jobs. The 100 mile day was based on how far you would travel in 8 hours at a speed of 12.5 mph. You there, Mr. Lee? Seems I recall a map in trains a while back showing this. I imagine the Lee-miester isa busy camper these days, like everybody on UP. In the early 1970's the law was changed to 14 hours and subsequently todays 12 hours. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. Members of both unions from all involved railroads are welcome to attend. Crew change points on the old Santa Fe Transco Author: chicohogger. I recall seeing a Steffee speed survey (mid-1960's?) One of this year's projects was to add a fourth main through Amarillo, Texas. Apparently extending crew districts is in E. Hunter Harrison's bag of tricks, which as far as I know now, he hasn't yet pulled out. We didn't linger too long for obvious reasons. Wyoming Public Radio | But I hear it is coming. The railroad has been one of the major economic drivers and employers for many of the Wyoming communities it passes through. Scribd is the world's largest social reading and publishing site. For instance, Sanford, Florida, was the south end of one railroad and the north end of another; both roads were absorbed by the Plant System--which went into the Atlantic Coast Line. It takes a lot of workers to keep the railroad running efficiently. > * Denver west (UP trackage rights): do they go all the way to Grand> Junction or do they change at Bond again like UP does? "The attendance policy we had in the past, it would allow basically any person to take two weekend days and five weekdays per month off," he explained. No, I think Rawlins is still very much used for everything but"shooters" (hotshots), which go all the way to Green River without achange. I was wondering about crewchangepoints along the UP and BNSF in the Midwest. It would mark a dramatic change to a labor contract that covers about 3,000 workers, or 60 percent of the BNSF system. Members enjoy 15% off any purchase in our store. Good threads on this string. Ensure a safe, slow approach from others with this railroad-themed logo mask! Several projects are currently underway to further expand the route's efficiency by adding triple- and even quadruple-track long stretches of the busiest parts of the Transcon. In the early 1970's the law was changed to 14 hours and subsequently todays 12 hours. We are committed to proactively identify, attract and develop long-term partnerships with certified minority, woman and veteran-owned and small disadvantaged businesses, while fulfilling BNSF Vision and Values. More than just lines on a map, a railroad is people. Zug, I still enjoy talking with railroad employees, but I am very careful about initiating conversations. In order to get a minimum speed of 12 or so MPH on the 0.5% ruling grades, the locomotives should have been able to maintain 25 or more MPH on level track, hence my wondering about 200 mile crew changes. In a perfect world, a crew-district is a days work. Crew Change Points, Belen to Barstow; Discussion related to BNSF operations. Melstone was almost certainly a crew change location in that it was almost exactly halfway between Harlow and Miles, along with being the only spot between Roundup and Miles City with more than two parallel tracks. At Galesburg we have 2 westbound stack trains, a couple of eastbound stackers, eastbound P train, plus the roadrailers, and vehicle trains. BNSF said more than 50 percent of train crew employees work less than 40 hours on average. But we don't just move freight; we touch people and communities along the way. UP crew changes:* Denver east: no idea* Denver south: Pueblo* Denver west: Bond, then Grand Junction* Denver north: Cheyenne* Pueblo south: same as BNSF, presumably* Cheyenne east: North Platte* Cheyenne west: Rawlins (Green River for hotshots? Dickinson crews still run locals between New Salem and Beach including the ever growing rail hub of RICHARDTON ND. Discussion forum related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp. We all have one thing in common: we worked at BNSF Railway or one of its predecessor railroads. The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. If a system map is an archaeological record of mergers, acquisitions, abandonments, and line sales, then a crew-district map is the record of all of these, plus technological change and traffic pattern change, with a great deal of law and contract negotiations mixed in.
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