by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post As the sport grew, the single shots came into their own as did fancy, short bolt guns, but a quarter of the program was always with a stock revolver. Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . being a good functional maximum charge with 180 gr. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. to 200 gr. .44 Henry rimfire. JavaScript is disabled. I wouldnt turn up my nose at either. So without further adiou "Welcome". Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. I never got to shoot either. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off, Most of my hearing is already gone, might has well get a couple of high-pressure guns to finish it off. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. I enjoyed your article. A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! Great guns..would love to have a Winchester big loop trapper in 357..but i wish the Winchester came with sling studs like the Marlin. allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and. Have as much ammo on hand as you can afford. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). .38 Spl is an absolute dream to shoot in a .357 lever gun. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. And if you do it right, .38 Special or .357 Mag is an incredibly cheap round to reload, with brass that lasts forever and makes a fine alternative to .22LR when plinking ammo is hard to find. Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. I wish I had bought more..or kept more ..lol. @ Ed Palumbo. Jan 23, 2014. 8,125. They were hell bent on making me reload. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. Brand: Winchester Firearms. Loads published in the major reloading manuals are pitifully understated, going to only go to about 40,000 psi. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post The pre-lawyer Rossi 92s are nice guns. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. .357 velocities peak in a 16 barrel and decrease thereafter. I admit that these articles about .357s have me thinking What the hell? As a reloader, I will say that I have affection for the ease of use/reuse of straight walled cartridges and, thus, am a bit more fond of 10mm but, .357 sig certainly has merit. get the Lee hand press. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. It packs or stows easily and are very difficult to find lately. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. I had just enough time to look at a Winchester 92 in .357(did not like the large loop lever) and an italian copy of the 73. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. Before the Remington, Freedom group takeover. Many people download it and get unburnt . The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. You can throw the entire reloading setup (minus powder and primers and bullets) into a cargo pocket. .357 Remington Maximum is one potent game harvesting machine with more energy potential than factory .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington, roughly equal to factory .300 Savage, and not far behind .308 Winchester energy levels, but with much less powder, less muzzle blast, and less recoil! The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! Just, reading the article reminded me about it. It was too intense and very finicky. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). Get one batch of 360 brass from Starline for ammo to be loaded hot. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. I'd bet you well over 90 percent of all IHMSA ammo was loaded on the shooter's bench. My lever is a Winchester in .45 Colt, for which you can not only reload, but you can reload pretty close to double the pressure of a handgun round, as long as you are using a modern rifle, and depending on the weight of the round. . 1. Good thought though. Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). The .357 sounds like just the ticket for deer hunting in heavy brush where 70-80 yard shots are about the max you will find. A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. I've searched the internet without finding definitive answers. Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. Description. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. It is such a joy to shoot! Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings You have entered an incorrect email address! This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. Itll still all fit in a small tackle box. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. Show Only Guns by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post Lil Gun is proving to be one of the very best powders for maximum performance in any barrel length, while AA-1680 is still gaining a little more speed per inch in 24 barrels. I had the model 19 years ago. Had a lousy day in the deer blind once, in my youth. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. Caveat Emptor. It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. Worried about scratching that brass? .357 Maximums and the 9x72R, an old German rifle cartridge. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. I saw your reference to benighted states and then AR, AK. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. Thanks for the link. The 8 grains of unique seem like fairly hot loads out of the rifle. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post Its pleasant to shoot even with .357 mag. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? 38 special. Since MSRP is only $1,069, its Winchesters entry-level lever gunbut its far from entry-level quality. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. I can recall a conversation with John Taffin, a fellow gunwriter of deserved great reputation. This is the same bullet we've used with great sucess in the .35 Rem loads. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. The unnecessary cross bolt safety can easily be deleted with a Beartooth Mercantile safety delete kit for $35.00. My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. That is too bad. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thanks for your replies. Bottom line, if you get a Marlin lever gun that works and shoots good, and without a crossbolt safety, dont EVER sell it. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. I would not mind adding a budget minded lever gun to my lot, something as accurate as my buddys. The more the merrier. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post We ballistics types all know sad stories about cartridges that showed great potential but failed shortly after leaving the launch pad. 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