My grandmother preferred Bushmills (on ice, with a large splash of water). Paddy is a brand of blended Irish whiskey produced by Irish Distillers, at the Midleton distillery in County Cork, on behalf of Sazerac, a privately held American company. So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. As a Scotsman living in Scotland, Id say I f youre worried about the religion of your whiskey then perhaps you shouldnt be drinking. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Catholics represented the unstable Republican persona and therefore the company hired few people from the catholic areas. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. Support the old sod. [2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. Also, I understand that corned beef and cabbage is not a traditional Irish meal but it is a traditional Irish American Meal, particularly in the North East. I sincerely doubt that there are too many Irish Catholics who care about the religion attached to what they drink. Mmmm..Middleton distillery. I have a bottle of Midleton stashed away for a special occasion and I keep a bottle of Kilbeggan for my go-to whiskey. I dont know about Ireland, but in some parts of the U.S there still major problems. FoinahYou nailed it. By far the biggest of this selection. Historically a single pot still whiskey, the flagship Powers Gold Label brand was the first Irish whiskey ever to be bottled. [1] Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. I do live in a Hicktown. There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . I should have thought of other whisk(e)y cocktails when typing that last thought. Not that it really matters. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. My grandfather lost friends due to the awful abuses that were brought upon the Irish in the Republic by the Englishs Black and Tans, rumor has it the original owner of Bushmills was granted the right to distill due to the fact he helped suppress the Irish in the north from uprising against the British. Slainte. Believe in the Trinity of God. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. The regular is fine; the Black Bush is nice if maybe too refined for me when I want a dram of Irish. But "this couldn't be any further from the truth," says McGarry. Ive tried to correct his misinterpretation but he thinks his name is funnier. Thanks for the clarification. Though I guess thats for a different forum. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! DONT EVER ask an Irish person , north or south if they are catholic or protestant because they will look at you with contempt. To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. Never tried Redbreast for some reason. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. To those who want to talk about Catholic vs Protestant issues, at least go visit the country before assuming anything. Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. There are many places in the States where old ideas hold fast including the brand of Ouisge Beatha you drink. I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. When I lived in Providence, there was a lot of Powers drinking going on. [1][2] A gold label adorned each bottle and it was from these that the whiskey got the name Powers Gold Label. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Im sure there were dodgy discriminatory practices based on race or religion in most big corporations in many countries in the past. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. The version that Im familiar with is, of course Jamison is Catholic and Bushmills is Protestant. That was over 40 years ago. This kind of stupidity makes us look like clowns in the eyes of most real Irish. The Master Distiller, Colum Eagan, is indeed a Catholic himself and comes from Co. Laois in ROI. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Also absolutely no one gave a rats ass what my religion is & Dublin is currently commemorating the Easter Rising centennial! Anyway, both of your sources are wrong, but at least your father got the order right. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License. . Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. Thanks again for this essay and the add-on comments. Cocktail Kingdom Stainless Steel Julep Strainer, Kuhn Rikon 4-Inch Nonstick Colori Paring Knife, UPDATE: So much has been discovered since this post originally went up, about the dangers of quinine in people with quinine sensitivity. Wow, this was such a fun read through. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. Of course with these kind of things mud tends to stick and some Irish-Americans wouldnt let the facts get in the way of a good anti-British story. And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. There is whiskey, and a whiskey drinker is a whiskey drinker no matter how they take it. Generally, it is a little less expensive than Jameson. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. [1] Irish Distillers owned the brand until its sale to Sazerac in 2016. The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Backlash against the Weimar Republicand the political, economic, and social changes in Germany that occurred during the 1920s Anti-Communism Nationalism : ). I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. In return, Bushmills receives grain whiskey from both Midleton & Cooley. This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. The Roman Catholic Church responded to the Protestant challenge by purging itself of the abuses and ambiguities that had opened the way to revolt . Redbreast is wonderful, but spendy. Most of those comments are from Americans who watch a lot of television, Im afraid. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. Then I must be the luckiest Arab in all o Ireland!. It is about the spirit in the bottle, not in a church. Whisky is Scotch, followed by Canada. I can just say Cheers! The Protestant Reformation began in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517 . And it really is an Irish American thing to take to finding out which is protestant and catholic lol. In all the pubs in NYC, no one seemed to really care that I noticed from either side of the bar. I also like Writers Tears, Bushmills and the Redbreast (12 more so than the 15). Thank you everyone for the new rea, Finally home from three wonderful days in Berlin a, When life gives you fresh passionfruits. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. Makes me want to get on a plane to Dublin immediately., Its like loving the smell of a sharpie or gasoline, in small way Kelsey Crenshaw. Regards, BTW, while traveling through a Protestant section of Belfast, our tour guide (who had a joke or good story for most Irish traditions) pointed out a notorious Loyalist BarThat bar there (the Hideout)was blown up many times by the IRA during the Troubles. Then he went on to say, If youre ever down and out and ready to end it all, and cash in your chips, go in that bar there and order a double Jameson, and youll find somebody in there to help you with your problem., There is no doubt that the Irish themselves know all about the Catholic Whiskey and the Protestant Whiskey. Jameson is the Catholic Whiskey, and Bushmills is the Protestant Whiskey., I met Noel Campbell owner of Bushmills he told me it does not matter what foot you you Wear your shoe on. The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. @Darby OGill. In: St. Patrick's Day. Bourbon distillers only use barrels once, as the liquor gets its distinct flavor and color from the oak. Nevermind the fact that it would be illegal in UK law. The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. Ive worked my way through nearly all the brands mentioned here and yet consistently return to my beloved Jameson 12 neat. I got into Powers through my wife, ans she learned of it from Shane MacGowan(s music). Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. @Eamonn: always good to hear from a Dubliner. It is the second-largest-selling brand of Irish whiskey globally, with sales of over 1,500,000 cases per annum as of 2020. The Ambassador had both Jameson and Bushmills on offer. [3], Following reform of the distilling laws in 1823, the distillery expanded rapidly. Irish for the whiskey Class dismissed. Spent the rest of the week getting to know Irish whiskey & came home w/ small bottles of Irish Whiskeys I wasnt sure I could get in the US so I could continue my coyage of discovery at home. You can see why I am confused. It was as perfect in flavour, and as pronounced in the ancient aroma of Irish Whisky so dear to the hearts of connoisseurs, as one could possibly desire, and we found a small flask of it very useful afterwards on our travels. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. Shortly after reading this post I dropped by Mortons to see a bartender friend. . I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even When asked to identify "the term commonly used to refer to the historical period in which Protestants broke away from the Catholic Church," two-thirds of the general public (65%) correctly chose the Reformation. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. If I was the kind of person who blogwhored, I would http://tinyurl.com/d92kdl As an American, am I being disloyal to Scotland when I drink Jamesons? This is excellent. The waitress stared at me, and said in her thick brogue, This is an IRISH pub. I looked at her and said, okay, Ill have a Harp. Here in Montana, that conversation wouldnt have made any sense. Required fields are marked *. As of 2016, Paddy is the fourth largest-selling Irish whiskey in the World. I serve it in Texas to my St. Patricks day guests and several times a year otherwise. in response to Irish whiskey is it catholic or protestant is irrelevant it is who is drinking it. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. What can one expect from people who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life? [9] They were the first Dublin distillery to do so, and one of the first in the world. Over and out. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. I wanted to explore one of t, @teremana has been my new favorite tequila since t, Happy Repeal Day! 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. Thats like native Americans boycotting jack Daniels because of American colonialism. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about jeff. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? Hi and i take my hat off to Rob Mchardy answer 34..more people should be like you and the world would be a nicer place,anyway there is only one kind of whisky,the answer is in the spelling. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. Many of these came from the grain mills along the Bush River, where the current distillery stands today. The young fella attending to the store asked if I wanted Catholic or Protestant then he placed a two bottles of Bushmills on the counter one plain and one Black label. [8] This was a notable departure for the firm, as for many years the big Dublin distilling dynasties had shunned the use of Coffey stills, questioning if their output, grain whiskey, could even be termed whiskey. As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. Period. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. 1 pint of stout and a halfun of Jameson.. Help! [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. First published on March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? One of the best whiskys I have ever drank. . . Just setting the record straight. Raised going to church every goddamned Sunday. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Love a pleanty 1 line was bottling Bushmills. If you want to support Ireland, go and visit and maybe read a few history books and hopefully realise that most normal people dont give a toss about religious leanings. I love Redbreast and always have a bottle about, but based on some comments here Ill definitely be picking up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. I said, so youre Protestant? Very sweet (like the inside of a burnt marshmellow). I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". Never once was I presented with a this is the north, or this is Ireland like many seem to believe in the States. I was wondering this myself. Bushmills is distilled in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Not all American or Irish whiskies spell the word with an elike Makers Mark, George Dickel, Old Forester, Early Times or Paddy spell the word w-h-i-s-k-y. I dont give a rip shit about religion and in fact LOATHE the typical evangelical protestant types like Swaggart, Murdoch etc. Whiskey and Cocktails Uisce Beatha or Water of Life has been distilled in Ireland for many centuries and possibly even for millennia. Nuts. Jameson was a Dublin Whidkey but it was Protestant. Have an OHaras Red and a Jamison on me. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. I drink and enjoy both, but based on my experience(s) in Ireland lets just say watching you order a Bushmills in Dublin would be very entertaining. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. It makes things interesting. Car bombs, kidnappings, murders, protests, etc. Very easy arrangement. It all comes down to politics in the grand scheme of things, be you Yank or Paddy. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. The full like of Bushmills (and a couple of other Irish whiskeys) will be available for sampling at Whiskies of the World on March 27th. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer Any particular reason why in 1998-1999 Bushmills would have distilled of at least bottle up for Jameson ????? The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. In 1886, John Power & Son began bottling their own whiskey, rather than following the practice customary at the time, of selling whiskey directly to merchants and bonders who would bottle it themselves. Delicious, soothing, contemplative. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. @Matt: sorry to hear about religious intolerance in West Virginia but this is a discussion about the distilling history of Irish whiskey, not moonshine. I was wondering when someone would ask this question. I lived through this and lost people to it, and it saddens me to read this. Im leaving this post up as an archive, but I encourage you to read that article first, and if you, As far as Im concerned, springtime is Dark and Stormy season. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! In 1998 Bushmills was part of IDL, which owned all the whiskies coming out of Ireland with the excpetion of the few from Cooley. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. There is neither protestant nor catholic whiskey available. Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. Delicious. Now I need to locate Redbreast! For one, Jameson and Bushmills trade casks and some Jamesons bottles are bottled in the Bushmills distillery as well as knowing many a catholic who have worked there over the years. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. Im Irish American and I volunteered for both Sinn Fin and Irish Northern aide. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. Apparently it is, or was, a thing among certain Irish-Americans to signal their genuine Irishness by refusing Bushmills and drinking Jameson, supposedly the whiskey of Catholics and supporters of the Republic of Ireland. If you ever try a more exclusive blend or a single malt, dont dare poison it with ginger ale . Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. When Tug McGraw was interviewed after winning the world series in 1980, they asked him what he was going to spend his series winnings on. . I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. Found it very smooth to the tongue. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. I visited Bushmills Distillery, and they were bottling both Bushmills and Jameson in the same facility!! Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. As an irish american raised in an irish roman catholic family I can say this: Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). I believe that Germany is the largest market for Tullamore Dew, followed by many of the Eastern European countries. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. The new Tullamore Dew distillery is up and running the past 2 years and back in Tullamore town. And a true story: as a young Dublin barman I was confounded by a true-blue Dubliner who asked for a large Shirley Bassey. I find it to be a littlethick? Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? [3][1] The distillery, which had an output of about 6,000 gallons in its first year of operation,[4] initially traded as James Power and Son, but by 1822 had become John Power & Son,[1] and had moved to a new premises at John's Lane, a side street off Thomas Street. And since I inherited her mothers sideboard, now repurposed as the bar in my den, I shall drink Bushmills tonight. I drink it often . The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. Whiskey hasnt got a religion. It was also the period during which the Roman Catholic Church, as an entity distinct from other . Bushmills, in turn, supplies the Midleton Distillery with single malt, which they use to make Tullamore DEW. Ive lost members of my family to the IRA in THIS generation. Question, in the US, is Powers readily available? hint of linseed. As of late, its been my favorite it has rich barley notes that leave my palate craving more. Anyhow, being 2nd generation American with grandparents from Greece, Ireland & England, I come from a long line of short, fat, peasant stock (with alcoholic tendencies, thank you). Thanks, Mike. I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. The last member of the family to sit on the board was Sir Thomas Talbot Power,[8] who died in 1930,[10] and with him the Power's Baronetcy. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. Do you have a clue what an ol Yankee could do there for wages? This was the time when Protestantism, through its definitive break with Roman Catholicism, arose to take its place on the Christian map. Happy St Pattys Day. Peter Knox Id be all up for emigrating from US to Ireland, in a heartbeat, but I read about the job prospects there are as bad (possibly worse) than here. Literal Meaning. [4] In addition, Barnard was high in his praise for Powers whiskey, noting:[4]. The new distillery opened in 1975, and a year later, production ceased at John's Lane Distillery and began anew in Cork,[1] with Powers Gold Label and many other Irish whiskeys reformulated from single pot stills whiskeys to blends. 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